Unknown Speaker 00:22 Now we only have $5 in the city. Who's going to make the decision about whether that's fine? Unknown Speaker 00:35 It's not a question of that we don't have a short, short show we should be packed. But who's going to make the decision about where that money? Goes agree with everything that they did. Other people have said that. They were, among other things, going into a $500 billion bailout. When Unknown Speaker 01:16 there is documented evidence that we got corporate profiteering going on Scandal lessons which could have been done with magic in this country. And I'm concerned that we really are not addressing Russia, I'm not an economist, I don't have that kind of expertise. I don't read a whole lot of The Wall Street Journal. But in an untutored perspective, it just feels like I'm living in a world that I don't understand even more. So. Unknown Speaker 01:48 I want to say something for that. One. The other two monoball is one case study of where we're at as feminist and Jesse Jackson is another. And I think that more than any other national political figure in that realm, Jesse was the kind of candidate that was talking about these issues. And, and white feminists particularly, let me put it this way that all of us who are sort of around the Democratic Party, were placed in a contradiction of whether to support Jessie. And it could just as well be Ross or anybody else running outside of the mainstream at the very earliest stages. And even that support was one of those things where people began to waver on if this vote would not mean anything. This would not help us resolve some of the national issues about allocation of resources, Jenny was the only candidate talked about, he was the most pro women's candidate we've ever had. And yet, white women, white feminists did not end in a very kind of prominent vocal way said, This man represents our interests. And I think it has something to do, which is a little bit different than the person who was talking about thinking, but because at some point, because in response to that, and also black women, unequivocally what our my response to the economics end would be. black elected officials and the Black Caucus have struggled for years around trying to do fine redefine the budget, even with all their problems. Talk about the sisterhood in the Center for Women's Development. It is black elected officials in New York State who helped to protect us. The struggle to get women elected officials other than Ruth and one or two others is very, very problematic. It seems to me that feminists have to say something about electoral politics, they have to intervene in that process. And I think some of some of the kinds of discussions and lobbying and, and political efforts of people around the Black Political Caucus and not just the men but women too, is a good model for how to begin to address those questions we're not concerned Unknown Speaker 04:10 with this how and how a lot of us going all out and what we're not addressing is that our marriage Unknown Speaker 04:47 contracts listen to a lot of career discretion. Unknown Speaker 04:53 And I found for myself that we can build a conservative town Unknown Speaker 04:58 and there is no community With that I feel comfortable joining Unknown Speaker 05:05 because I'm honored to be part of the Patreon to support and serve. So I'm concerned with part of the system and also the use of white feminists of silence, super scattered, working as much as Unknown Speaker 05:37 you well, first of all, I don't think anybody should put themselves down for being married to anybody. I'm serious. I think there's a questioning of that process. I think there's a question. Yeah, I think there's a question of it, and interventions in it, and all of that, in that relationship, that might be really important. Also, when I said community, I didn't say community of people of color. It's really interesting how it got this, this define, that's my community. But even a community of feminist I'm saying, I live in a black community that every black woman there was a feminist. I've, what I've found is white, are very alienated, especially radical feminists load away from their community, the people down the block, the men's and the store around it, they're very alienated from those things, especially in a place like New York City, where you don't have a sense of living with a group of people next door, around the corner down the block. And these are your folks. And some of them are one kind of way and some of them are another and you happen to be a feminist that lives in a community, that kind of community which, yes, being black really helps to facilitate, I think, is what I feel is one of the missing links and how to promote an activist politic. A community, not a black, not your support of black women in their commute, which is wonderful, and all that, but where is the community that you can develop the euro, is what I really want to stress. Unknown Speaker 07:15 And also, I just want to respond to what you said about subverting oneself by going into academia as opposed to working in a community that dichotomy doesn't have to be like that. Academic institutions are not different from companies or working for the city of New York or being a social worker or ever being a librarian you're working in an institution and you have to somehow deal with it and try to transform it Unknown Speaker 07:45 somebody just dumped. Based agenda in the 90s Bathe engender in benignly? Hearing the finding University and just like Unknown Speaker 08:40 shop operations Unknown Speaker 08:44 we need to define ourselves going to wait to see how and what Wait, what we believe in your mind. It doesn't matter where he is from Kenya. Doesn't matter if he's struggling with your minor students, or never married, unmarried, male or female. If that is what you understand, you're practicing every day. If you understand the nature of oppression and exploitation, understand that we are absolutely basic Unknown Speaker 09:35 conditions can be lifted from conditions which represent opportunities because people are losing the illusions or fantasies about the fact that we didn't get yourself sang the song and basic economic and political change which would happen in this country. All of that is ahead of both the crisis and the opportunity. What is it stay here is building communities, whether you have the more not live in them or not, whether in university, I don't think that university the same, because we have a different obligation. People come to university, they think to learn. And they expose themselves and are vulnerable entirely when they are an idea. We have a different responsibility in this situation, this is Legion. Not all teaching and Women's Studies programs are women. We didn't have to begin to understand how do we build communities? How do we build communities of change? How do we build communities of consciousness, we literally have to go back and start all over again. And that is part of understanding what social change is. When we start from the beginning. Now, we'll start from where we left off, Unknown Speaker 11:00 we could revert it Unknown Speaker 11:02 into all kinds of other activity. And we need to get back to the basic or the basic types. This raises a whole new note talking about the whole generation that already dates and stuff and the first thing so what is that graduates? How do you build systems? How do you build connections? How do you build support around basic human needs, and the basic experiences which help people to transplant a new life? And that seems to be not when you get married? What the hell is going to college? If people want to join, get into that, and see that is the role, then do it. But the majority of women in this city, it's going to be building units. And having it be constituted as consciousness raising for activism is going to challenge the political and economic situations. Thanks. Unknown Speaker 12:26 I will say there Unknown Speaker 12:27 is definitely someone from the university who say what you just did. You're willing to die. Unknown Speaker 12:40 If I said that. Unknown Speaker 12:43 You or a dialogue. I too want to see what's on my mind. And I'm looking for a feminist voice in New York, I have a look. All right. When I get together and start going about organizing, when I need to. I want to be able to pick up the phone to say so and so what's going on? Can you help me? I can do. But I don't have access to all the information. And where's the directory of people who are involved? I don't know. All right. But that doesn't have anything to do with this information together. And they conduct and I hope that from was generated. So there will be a platform. Unknown Speaker 13:44 Thanks, we I didn't mean to suggest that I thought the university was the same as corporations, just the same in the sense that we have a responsibility, as Barbara said, to build communities in these institutions like others. We have one time for one more, I think you were had your hand up Unknown Speaker 13:59 for me this morning. But one of the most salient issues that was raised but because as well as both of you is about this division between collective action and individual, how empowerment liberation grow, to go live, our lives survive. And I've read this new one. And I'm very proud to see undergraduates and this privileged institution that I'm operating in, so frightened to speak in generalities like Professor Kirby was saying that they are no position to act collectively, in any way for fear that it would be a master narrative that it would be speaking for someone else, and there's no way to say it's going to be undermined unless the action is clear. And I I stress it because I think that we forget about disunity because there's all this room for difference and struggle in the unity. In fact, there better be report and and somehow there's either unity or there's difference. I took a dare to leave campus and go down to Washington to Central America, actually, and was privileged to be part of 600 people who were arrested by cops. And there was an overall fear of suggesting unified strategy and practice in that action for fear that somebody would be isolated and needed for him or herself. To do it this way. Just for the record, I press, it is usual elimination story that over 170 people that refuse to get their name, walked out of that action without a mind or giving names or getting a record. However, for other people make $50 into the setup. It was $20,000 that big and it didn't go where it goes to creating a building to house demonstrators, so that very favorable or as the mother there, and I learned a lot there that we could remember to make unity Central Campus Oh, thanks. Unknown Speaker 16:42 Thanks for sharing your thoughts and ideas.